Colder Airbox Mod

[beul]

Originally Posted by ROWDY

Its called heat soak... It affects EVERYTHING

yeah fine, but what is the difference? as a rider i am interested in that part, but as a mechanic i cannot believe it, becouse the amount of air that is going tru the airbox. in my opinion its not possible. especialy when compagnies start to talk about stages, and gold tape or just alu.. why does the gold collor gives you more horsepower? and than the price.. are you sponsord by that compagny?
i love new technical stuff and creative sollutions, but its so hard to believe..

[ROWDY]

Originally Posted by beul

yeah fine, but what is the difference? as a rider i am interested in that part, but as a mechanic i cannot believe it, becouse the amount of air that is going tru the airbox. in my opinion its not possible. especialy when compagnies start to talk about stages, and gold tape or just alu.. why does the gold collor gives you more horsepower? and than the price.. are you sponsord by that compagny?
i love new technical stuff and creative sollutions, but its so hard to believe..

The airbox I ran as a trial. I put a stage one heat wrapped airbox on my Kawi as I was trying to get it to run cooler. I live in Atlanta GA where in the summer its 96 degrees w 78-85% humidity (110Degrees on average) My kawi was running 220 in 5min of starting to ride and would hit 230 degrees + in less than 5 more min so I was constantly riding around the lot to cool it down with the stock fan wired on 24/7. So I started doing some research and found a few options. The airbox being 1, Motul MoCool water treatment was 2, ceramic coating my headers inside and out was 3, Dual fans on all the time was 4. In that order.
The P&P stage 1 airbox and MoCool had me running temps of 220-225 for about 15min of riding so I knew they helped but once the heat sink set in, it was over. So I did the headers inside and out next and the temps dropped to about 215-225 but again it wasnt enough. The DCP Rad support w dual fan mod did the trick and now in the dead of summer heat my bike wont break 192 degrees. I never have to shut it off or ride it around to cool it off. The airbox mod works, when used with all the other mods it really works. I believe Each mod Ive done is as important as the other. My bike has a crisp throttle and pulls like a freight train now ALL of the time. Especially when its up to operating temp.
Yes I ride for Motul and yes I now ride for P&P so of course I will promote their products. But This mod Matt has come up with is very similar to my airbox and as long as the heat doesnt transfer through it, its a cost effective mod that will work

[PeRkz]

Cool Mod Matt. Did you find your oil leak yet?

[ADBZ Matt]

Originally Posted by PeRkz

Cool Mod Matt. Did you find your oil leak yet?

Yeah tire wire wrapped around my front sprocket from shows and blowing tires... the wire eventually ate up the oil seal behind my fro nt sprocket. www.ronayers.com and 9 bux later it is fixed...

thankx for the props on the mod to, its def worth a try and since I did several cool mods at once i would like to see a before and after of just this mod.

[PeRkz]

If I had gages and temp gage I would be willing to try it!!

Glad you found the leak! I'm still fighting those clip on. I got the bolt drilled out, nutted and bolted both but the left just won't stay tight for more then a session

[beul]

thanks for explain rowdy! will deff trie it than.

[ROWDY]

Originally Posted by beul

thanks for explain rowdy! will deff trie it than.

No Prob man,

EVERYONE Just be sure this HVAC tape your using has some form of insulating properties to keep the heat from transferring into the plastic. This would defeat the purpose completely

Check out http://www.performanceandperfection.com/miraclemod.html to try and get a few more ideas

[Teach]

interesting and i thnk i'll try it...so big question is what is the actual difference between the silver and gold tape?

and DIY seems ridiculously cheaper...unless there is some sort of material that these guys have that i cant get, $30 for a roll plus a couple hours of my time is worth the over $100 you'd save by DIY instead of sending it out for some other monkey to do it for you?

[ROWDY]

Originally Posted by Teach

interesting and i thnk i'll try it...so big question is what is the actual difference between the silver and gold tape?

and DIY seems ridiculously cheaper...unless there is some sort of material that these guys have that i cant get, $30 for a roll plus a couple hours of my time is worth the over $100 you'd save by DIY instead of sending it out for some other monkey to do it for you?

Because all u need is MORE power


On a serious note, If you are having overheating issues or just getting too warm in general its def worth looking into. That Beemer pumps out the HP and with that comes heat. I'd look at all the other things I mentioned too. The tape differences is legit, its fireproof heat proven

[Teach]

but what kind of 'special' tape is it? especially the gold?

with a lot of shows and burouts comes heat, my bike has gotten to 260-265 a bunch of times. dual fan really not an option but heat wrapping the headers is a poss and maaaaaybe ceramic coating them but prolly not. need to set up a few so cost per bike is an issue