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 Originally Posted by vegasrider2005
im with you, there is no reason a rivet would be stronger that a clip
ya your right, what was i thinking.... honda, kawasaki, yamaha, suzuki, spend all that time and research to see what parts are better and safer for your bike, and even put a disclaimer about what master to use in a service manual, yet they are probably just lying about it, because im sure that most of you guys can build better bikes then them and what not
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 Originally Posted by SPAGS
ya your right, what was i thinking.... honda, kawasaki, yamaha, suzuki, spend all that time and research to see what parts are better and safer for your bike, and even put a disclaimer about what master to use in a service manual, yet they are probably just lying about it, because im sure that most of you guys can build better bikes then them and what not
what makes them stronger???
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well for one, rivets are more or less sealed on, making it similar to an endless chain which is the strongest chain style there is.
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 Originally Posted by SPAGS
well for one, rivets are more or less sealed on, making it similar to an endless chain which is the strongest chain style there is.
but if properly installed a clip has no stress or strain, there is no outward force that would hurt the clip. its just there to keep the link on, same as the rivet. i just dont see how you think it makes it stronger.
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 Originally Posted by Lotus
clip links are for a dirtbike making <50 hp. rivet always. Dont need any special tools.
*small c-clamp
*use a small punch to install(have someone hold a block or hammer to the other side of the chain.)
* us a small punch to mushroom out the rivets.
Done!
Can you tell me what Dirt bike uses this?
http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/...=badger-street
 Originally Posted by Lotus
+1 I swear I try to make intellegent posts, and not to chime in to pointless shit, but today I failed. haha
According to you all clip styles are used for dirt bikes. I haven't seen a 530 chain on a dirt bike, ever.
Here is my take on this. Use what ever you want. Racers use the clip style and have no issues with them. If Racers don't have issues, then stunters won't. The only issue that anyone would have with a clip style link is if them put it on backwards and did a HIGH rate of SPEED. This would make the clip come off.
 Originally Posted by Lotus
All has to do with tensile strength. The lower tensile strength = clip links
High tensile strength = rivet links
Shit, I just tossed out a chain last year that had 4 seasons on it of hard riding. It ha3 3 (THREE) clip style masters in it from when my stock chain broke and I patched it back up with clip links....
Point is, put the clip on in the right direction and you will have zero issues.
Shit, I just tossed out a chain last year that had 4 seasons on it of hard riding. It has 3 (THREE) clip style masters in it from when my chain broke and I wanted to keep riding.
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 Originally Posted by SPAGS
well for one, rivets are more or less sealed on, making it similar to an endless chain which is the strongest chain style there is.
How does a rivet link seal better?
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 Originally Posted by Lotus
I dont give a shit if you worked on Valentino Rossi's bike. If you dont know what your doing thats fine, just dont try and pass off like your a lead tech. Your the kind of dumbass that would try to do a valve adjustment on a friends bike, and end up bringing it to a shop in a box to have them put it back together for you. Why not pick up a book and try to learn something. Most of us out there werent born with your expert bike "building skills" and all the experience to back it up.
Bbhahahahahahah! You have no idea what my level of tech experience is, what manual did you read to bang. your rivet type masterlink with a block and hammer. My rep is established and out there. Your still just a Squid gas bag behind a keyboard no matter how many empty moronic comments you make.
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its just another piece that could potentially fall off, there fore i would rather not risk it and I use rivet types.. As i stated before, i do not care what you run on your bike, but i have seen first hand properly installed clip style links failing and causing major damage to the bike.. Thats what I have actually seen, but ive heard way to many stories of people and there bikes getting damaged. so fuck that. I have all the tools to properly install a rivet so there is no need for me to use clip's..
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 Originally Posted by SPAGS
its just another piece that could potentially fall off, there fore i would rather not risk it and I use rivet types.. As i stated before, i do not care what you run on your bike, but i have seen first hand properly installed clip style links failing and causing major damage to the bike.. Thats what I have actually seen, but ive heard way to many stories of people and there bikes getting damaged. so fuck that. I have all the tools to properly install a rivet so there is no need for me to use clip's..
How do you know they were installed properly
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 Originally Posted by SPAGS
its just another piece that could potentially fall off, there fore i would rather not risk it and I use rivet types.. As i stated before, i do not care what you run on your bike, but i have seen first hand properly installed clip style links failing and causing major damage to the bike.. Thats what I have actually seen, but ive heard way to many stories of people and there bikes getting damaged. so fuck that. I have all the tools to properly install a rivet so there is no need for me to use clip's..
im willing to be those properly installed clips were not installed properly
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