Kelly Thomas beated to death by OC cops
#1
Only 2 of the officers charged. Fucked up world aint it...pisses me off...


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kelly-thomas-20120508,0,5787840.story


Video portrays violent death of Kelly Thomas

A graphic recording causes some spectators to leave the courtroom during a preliminary hearing for two Fullerton officers in the beating of a homeless man who screamed: 'Dad, they are killing me!'




May 8, 2012

On the ground and screaming that he was "sorry," a shirtless Kelly Thomas is shown being hit again and again with fists, a baton and finally the butt of a stun gun by Fullerton police officers in a dramatic video that was shown for the first time Monday in an Orange County courtroom.

The grainy black and white video of Thomas' violent encounter with police outside a bus depot is the centerpiece of the prosecutions' case against two officers accused of escalating a standard police encounter with a homeless man into a fatal beating.

At one point, Thomas � a 37-year-old mentally ill homeless man who was a familiar face in the city's downtown � screams out: "Dad, they are killing me!"

PHOTOS: Kelly Thomas death

The video and the sound of fists and a baton striking Thomas were so graphic that several spectators left the courtroom and the judge paused the video at one point after some people in the audience began to groan. He cautioned that those who couldn't stomach the video should leave.

The case has rocked the north Orange County city, where scores of people have protested, staged memorials and even held a recent public birthday celebration for Thomas. During a press conference in announcing the charges, Orange County Dist. Atty Tony Rackauckas was brought to tears while discussing the case.

Two officers, Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli, are charged in Kelly's death. Both have pleaded not guilty.

Ramos, 38 is charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter while Cicinelli, 40, is charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive force in connection with the July 5 beating of Thomas, who died five days later. If convicted, Ramos faces a potential life sentence; Cicinelli could get four years in prison

The video, shot by a security camera at the bus depot, initially captures Thomas being detained by Ramos and Officer Joseph Wolfe. Thomas is uncooperative and Ramos appears to grow angry.

"See my fists?" Ramos says.

"Yeah," Thomas replies. "What about 'em?"

"They're getting ready to f� you up," Ramos says while sliding on a pair of latex gloves. The statements and the menacing acting of putting on the gloves, Rackauckas said the preliminary hearing, set the deadly encounter into motion.

Thomas can be heard repeatedly saying "sorry" as Ramos and Wolfe strike him, instructing him to put his hands behind his back. "I am sorry, dude, I can't breathe, dude," he says at one point.

One of the two officers can be seen kneeing Thomas at least once, though some of the activity is obscured by a tree.

"I cannot breathe, man," Thomas says at another point as Wolfe tells him to relax.

When Cicinelli arrives and tells Thomas to stop resisting, the audio captures the sound of a Taser stun gun clicking rapidly as the homeless man growls in pain, his legs seeming to twitch.

At one point, it appears that Cicinelli raises his arm and smacks Thomas in the face or head with the butt of the Taser.

Cicinelli later says, "we ran out of options so I got the end of my Taser and I probably � I just smashed his face to hell. He's on something, dude.... Three of us couldn't even control him."

By the time the confrontation ends, Thomas is lying in a pool of blood. Officers then examine their own wounds as they stand near Thomas, who is handcuffed and on the ground. "You are covered in blood, dude," one officer can be heard saying to Ramos, who claimed Thomas bit him on the leg.

Cicinelli adds: "He is the one you're gonna need to look at."

Thomas suffered brain injuries, a shattered nose, a smashed cheekbone, broken ribs and internal bleeding, according to authorities. But he died of "mechanical compression of the thorax" � his windpipe was crushed.

But attorneys for the two officers sought to portray his medical treatment as the reason for Thomas' death rather than the officers' actions.

John Barnett, Michael Ramos' attorney, asked the fire captain and a trauma surgical chief about whether the initial doctors atSt. Jude MedicalCenter in Fullerton struggled to insert a tube and clear an airway for him.

"The cause of death might be the treatment he got the hospital?" Barnett asked UC Irvine surgical trauma chief Michael Lekawa, seeking to persuade a judge to dismiss a murder and manslaughter charge against his client.

Lekawa acknowledged that he was concerned about medical error until he saw the medical reports and video of the incident.

Thomas' father, Ron Thomas, said the hardest part of the video and audio "is the sounds of my son calling out."
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#2
I've been following this since it happened. Truly sickening, and I hope there is justice for Thomas.
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#3
Wow that is fuckin Rediculous , how could it take that many cops to detain one person. I hope they don't get off easy on this. Stupid ass mother fuckers. 6 cops for 1 person .... I'd like those 6 cops to take on me and 47 of my friends and let them see how fair it is
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#4
wtf is wrong with these types of people......any of those cops could have changed that outcome.....disgusting lack of respect for human life.....I hope they go to jail and suffer for it....
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Originally Posted by Skillz954
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wtf is wrong with these types of people......any of those cops could have changed that outcome.....disgusting lack of respect for human life.....I hope they go to jail and suffer for it....

^^ my thoughts exactly. sickening
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#6
honestly i didnt watch the entire thing i skipped through. but the bum is fighting it the whole time and probably on meth crank or whatever else. if the dude just put his hands behind his back he would be fine. what are cops suppose to just let people run away and not get arrested? Ya the pig should never have said these fists are getting rready to fuck you up but if he would have just complied and stopped being such a dipshit it would be fine today. you get what you give in this world dont screw with the police they have way too much power and will probably not go to jail for this as you can see the man is CLEARLY resisting the whole time even when 4+ cops are trying to subdue him.
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Originally Posted by kruss
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honestly i didnt watch the entire thing i skipped through. but the bum is fighting it the whole time and probably on meth crank or whatever else. if the dude just put his hands behind his back he would be fine. what are cops suppose to just let people run away and not get arrested? Ya the pig should never have said these fists are getting rready to fuck you up but if he would have just complied and stopped being such a dipshit it would be fine today. you get what you give in this world dont screw with the police they have way too much power and will probably not go to jail for this as you can see the man is CLEARLY resisting the whole time even when 4+ cops are trying to subdue him.

Wow...before you make more ignorant comments how about you actually read and research a bit. Cops were searching for a guy who was burglarizing and vandalizing cars in the area. This guy just happened to be there and looked like a bum(cuz he was) and started getting accused of it. Autopsy report also showed there were NO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL IN HIS SYSTEM. Yes he was a little defensive at first but so would you be if you were being accused of something you didnt do(nor is it grounds for beatings someone to death). They beat and tased him for about 8 minutes straight, even AFTER about a minute or two he yells that he gives up and tells them to stop, then continues to yell for another 5 min or so that he cant breath and he's dying. He stopped resisting about a a minute or two. 6 guys to subdue 1 person. You gotta be fucking shitting me. They stopped hitting him and tasing him after he was unconscious and pretty much dead on the ground not moving, he stopped resisting well before that.
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#8
Kruss you're an idiot......some people try reading an article before they make an ass of themselves....."Thomas — a 37-year-old mentally ill homeless man who was a familiar face in the city's downtown"......plus in the video the cop asks him why they have to talk to him all the time......this means the cops are familiar with him and the fact that he was mentally ill.....this is not the way to deal with someone in his KNOWN condition......these cops have no real defense....they were wrong and basically beat a retard to death.....
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#9
crackhead or not kruss nobody deserves to get beaten to death for no apparent reason.. boo fuckin hoo somebody wasnt listening to a cop, it wouldnt be the first time.. still not enough reason for the worthless pigs to be a bunch of tough guys and beat up a homeless mentally retarted guy.... if i had 4 cops beating on me id be fighting for my life too. fuck the cops and thier king of the world bullshit. if you watch the video again the dude was walking to the car and the cop hit him with a batton for no apparent reason when clearly they should have been trying to handcuff the guy then and throw him on the hood of the car like they usually do.

on drugs or not im pretty sure if two cops cant be mentally strong enough to figure out how to hogtie a homeless dude till he chills out maybe they are in the wrong line of work.
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#10
yea couldnt even finish that vid w.o gettin super fuckin pissed. explain again...how it took 6 fuckin pigs to hold down a homeless bum??

fuckin pigs
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