Beware of Badass Industries

[D.J.stunts]

i know alot of ppl have had their issues but from the time i shipped my frame to him to the time i was putting my bike together as right around 10 days. so no complaints on that here! not to mention its strong as hell. i wish i would have had time to have him go ahead andpowder it but the whole deal was a last minute thing. one thing i will say is he stayed in contact with me the whole time and always hit me back with an answer on any questions. thats just my experience

[CELFLEX]

Originally Posted by CELFLEX

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I get it, a one man shop with two men. Shit will take awhile. But the BS stops here.
I�m typing this out before my 675 frame is done but 3 months into having paid for in a deal we worked out. Hopefully I�ll get my shit.

Lets Start here- Billie lists a 04 636 on stuntride for 2250 with a half steel frame and clean title. A few pm�s and texts later I determine the bike is solid and I�m getting a good deal that�s hard to pass up on�. Shame on me.
We worked out a deal that instead of a 636 half frame, ill get a Daytona frame and pay a extra 250$ to make it a full frame. So I pay 2450 and start looking for shipping.

So at this point the bsing begins. My feeling is the bike was sitting in pieces in the corner of his shop, and he didn�t have a title or frame for it. Because it took about a month to get the bike put together and get a picture of it. Because the picture listed on stuntride was not the bike.
He made more promises that it would be put together, parts painted and stunt able out the box, and the kicker was a bunch of extra parts (all his garbage he wanted out of the shop). But he was kind enough to throw in a cage, which I had to pay someone to take from me.

U ship finally comes through to get the bike shipped and I have to keep delaying the shipping of the bike because he keeps saying it will be ready and its wasn�t. But finally I get the bike, 50% my fault and 50% his fault it took a month to get. The bike should have been ready to sell the second he posted it on stuntride though, so I say 100% his fault. It then took about another month of more of his BS lies just to get the title. (Its in the mail, mail lost it blah blah).
Ill skip to issues I have since figured out about the bike that has �no problems�
1. Blown fork seal
2. Literally leaks oil from every gasket, including the cracked stator cover
3. Chain had previous popped and cracked part of the case which didn�t effect anything but shit was broken
4. Swing arm was missing a needle bearing on the right side
5. Shock bolts loose, missing engine bolts or had no nuts on it.
6. Found a big piece of casing in the oil pan still haven�t figure out where it goes.
7. Radiator has been welded and doesn�t leak but clearly noticeable
8. Chain was garbage and razor sharp teeth on front steel sprocket
9. I saved the best for last because this burnt me in the ass the worst because I didn�t notice it before I made a deal with Dr MotoKawi which I�ve apologized for�.the fucking frame was cracked.
10. Edit 5-20 oh let just go ahead and save the best for last now. The motor lasted less than 8 hours.
11. Tank had � in of bondo all over it covering up the mangled tank
12. I�m sure there is more but I want to get back to the story.

Back to the 675 deal, well I don�t rush to tear the bike down because he told me he was busy and couldn�t get to it� then I get a text that says when r u shipping the frame. So he's saying he�s ready (From the get go �I said no rush but I don�t want it to take a year.�) So I tear down my mint brand new 675 and ship him the frame. I get updates here and there pushing it back farther and farther. In the mean time some nice fellow from the Daytona forums gives me a frame with papers and I decide at this rate ill never get a full frame so Ill just do a half (although I don�t like the way it bolts up) So I ship him a half frame.
Needless to say this all started in October and there is NO WAY in hell I�m going to get my frame before the big Lot Wars rush. At this point I�m okay with that, I just wish he would be real and don�t write checks his ass cant cash. Its bad business.
Now I�m going to move onto the final straw that led me to all of this that I was biting my tongue on.

Next I need a cage I post on FB, he responds "I can have it shipped in 3 days"�.. Few days go buy and I said okay lets do it. He says you will have it by the end of the week I have someone making those so it will be fast. That was Jan 9th�.. It�s now the 16th and he sends me a picture of race rails on a 636 and says shipping out in the morning�.. UMMM 200$ for race rails? I need a cage with cross brace, sliders, and some support. Unless he�s giving me this cage for the headache and not the 250$ I said id give him for a cage that I had initially paid extra for a full frame. He can eat it.

5-20 update- He made a full cage, it only took a month to get, welds weren�t finished and cage bolted up like crap(by crap I mean the cross brace was either 2 inches short because his steel flexed out while welding or the bar was to short) I just pulled it together and tightened it down.

So besides this guy writing checks his ass cant cash in the time promised. Lets time warp back to when I got Dr MotoKawi�s frame. He wants my ironman frame for one of his frame and says it will be done in less than a week. I was going to do it, but I just couldn�t take dealing with this guys BS anymore. He hasn�t even paid a raffle winner his frame yet, people having been waiting months on their frames, and he�s offering me a frame in less than a week? Where does the BULLSHIT END? Honestly I gave a new company the benefit of a doubt and he seemed to be an alright guy making a good product when he actually produced something.

5-20 edit He�s still a bullshitting liar and he offered me a vin plate and mco for my Daytona for free for the wait. Thanks buddy, but the shit was flowing again, I heard for weeks its in the mail, its shipping tomorrow blah blah finally after over a month I receive a vin tag and paper work. Still NO bill of sale as I requested at the sale of the fucking bike in the first place.

So as of today I have been asking for my stock frame back for almost 2 months, with all hope lost of ever getting a steel Daytona frame, I just want my stock frame back. But he has managed to bull shit me over and over with his lies. Texting me asking for pictures of this and that along with measurements, so he can finish a jig that was supposed to be done 4 months ago�.

Fuck you. I�m done pussy footing and walking on egg shells in hopes to get what I�m owed. When Badass makes right on this deal I will then and only then will I back off. Till then consider it a beef because this shit is personal now. I�m not an internet thug as you texted because I left negative feedback on the forums you continue to fuck people on. I know how business works, and badass is Full of Fail.

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I'm so bitter and angry anytime I even think of building my Daytona or see misc 636 parts around my garage.
But it's cool build Tyson's 600rr frame, spend time making subframes and what ever else.

I usually don't use this word because its coming my way for other things.
But Karma's a bitch.

[tys0n]

Just for the record, My frame isn't on time either. On the 24th it will be exactly a month since he got it. I havent been rushing him though as im not really in a rush. Sorry man i didnt mean to piss you off i was just joking about it when i posted that shit.

I think he should just give more realistic time frames and it would save him a lot of negative backlash.

[CELFLEX]

I ain't mad, shit needs to be said. Nothing surprises me at this point.
The cake, icing and candles have already been made, lit and blown out in this cake .
People just need to understand who they are dealing with.
He lied about a bike and never finished a deal.

[CELFLEX]

Hey @balancetheory you owe me a half frame. It isn't a hook up it isn't a favor. It's was part of my motorcycle purchase/agreement.
So send me the original 636 half frame agreed upon ASAP...please.

[CELFLEX]

Ps it been almost a year.


http://stuntride.com/vbstunt/showthr...Billie-Johnson

[Duane S.]

well I'm done with him too!! Gave me a credit for my frame stuff have been going round and round with him for month about my credit which was suppose to go towards a radiator cage for my 11, well lord and behold he never honored it said he was sending it out twice never received it........ so that $100 credit was bullshit and never got my rad cage......... also kinda got a run around on my cage for my 11 too so long story short my friend Ryan Graves is making me a radiator cage for my bike.

I still have to text messages for it saying I have a credit and that I can apply it to we have been talking about this cage since may 16th texted him around aug 24 to ask if he send it said it was being shipped on monday well nothing even when I texted him and saw that it said read never got a response.

Its all good though don't make promises you can't keep and don't make deadlines that you can't make. Man sometimes I wish I was a good enough rider to be asked to get to rep stuff and receive it within weeks not fucking months. People like use pay money to receive stuff at a decent time not when you feel like making it. Crazy that Hohey, Sick, 905 stayed around so long wait a minute they actually make parts and ship it? Fuck even Aaron twite was doing more shows and had a busy schedule and still pumped out frames then when notice that was gettin more busier he passed the torch to SI. Once again not bashing him personally but I have a bad experience on the company side. He needs to figure out a way better system on the business side.



Man I put $40 into the drawing and I could careless now about it.

[navajowalks]

Those raffles took months to complete also... Did the last one EVER happen? LOL

[ajbsays]

ohhh man I just read this, I ordered not 1 but 2 full frames from him 3 days ago .. hopefully everything is cleared up

[Duane S.]

Lord and behold I got a call from a different number two days ago...... guess who it was lol..... tellin me my rad cage was ready....... just told him to keep the damn thing seriously u got to be kidding me

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