HoHey triple bolt mod

[Gilad]

I didn't liked the the bolts on my HoHey triple, looked like a cheep Chinese design.
so made it better !

I think HoHey need to change it to, for the 200$ it cost, I don't want to see these screws.

What do you guys think ?

[762SPR]

Looks a lot better now. They should do that from the factory. Then again, that's two more machine setups to pay for...

[ROWDY]

They also strip out much easier being an allen head. Hopefully you never find this out

[Duane S.]

Originally Posted by ROWDY

They also strip out much easier being an allen head. Hopefully you never find this out

^^^^^^^ this and that shit suck

[Righteous 1]

Allen heads like that will strip if you use the wrong size allen wrench. If you use the correct size, I doubt you will have an issue.

Looks MUCH better!!

[ROWDY]

Originally Posted by Righteous 1

Allen heads like that will strip if you use the wrong size allen wrench. If you use the correct size, I doubt you will have an issue.

Looks MUCH better!!

I would have to disagree.
ANY allen head made of stainless steel will strip the head off if it has to be tampered with constantly. FACT: Stainless is no where close to the strength of a hardened steel bolt and "most" stainless bolts are Grade 2. It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to the low carbon content, stainless steel cannot be hardened making it weak. Therefore when compared with regular steel it is barely stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2, which is GARBAGE) steel fastener but significantly weaker than hardened steel fasteners.
Which is why I replace every stainless allen head that has to be in constant use with grade 8 or above bolts. You can find them coated so that they dont rust, but they cost more. I cant stand stripping allen head bolts!

[Righteous 1]

Then we agree to disagree.

I'm the opposite. I replace everything(almost) w/ stainless. It's plenty strong.(although not as strong as some alternate materials, as professor Rodney mentioned above )

I've been known to over tighten bolts and strip threads....religiously....since I was a boy. I very RARELY have any issues w/ the allen head on stainless bolts. I've seen SOOOOO many people strip allen heads from using the wrong size wrench. It's much more common than with hex head bolts. Too many people try to use standard allen wrenches w/ metric bolts.....happens all too often.

With moto parts, a majority of what is being secured....is aluminum. I prefer to bend a stainless bolt, before I bend the part it secures. With that being said, I like to use stainless hardware in most situations where an aluminum part is being secured. If you're bolting down a moto part that is Grade 8 material, or similar....then I'd use Grade 8 hardware.

Stainless is somewhat soft, as Rodney mentioned....but that can be a good thing. Just use the correct size wrench!

The Righteous Sub-Cage is designed w/ these ideas in mind. It is engineered so that the stainless bolts will bend before the aluminum, in most cases. If one were to replace the hardware in the Righteous Sub-Cage w/ Grade 8 hardware, there would be a decent chance that in a huge impact......an aluminum part may bend before the hardware. This would not be efficient, and would also void the warranty on the billet parts of the Sub-Cage.

I like stainless.

[JohnnyP]

Thats likely a 6mm allen head, if your stripping that, you either

Have a shitty made in China tool
Didnt insert it properly (angled or not deep enough)
or are over tightening it

Simple there is no reason you should be stripping a 6mm hex on a triple pinch bolt, if you are you are doing it wrong

Now if we were talking about a button head, then those are usually very shallow and promote stripping....That is a socket cap though, and you sholdnt have problems with those when used properly

[Gilad]

its not a tank!

These screws are closed for something like 25-30 N.M torque.
use the right size tool and you can open this bold and close it for a very long time.

I work for b.m.w motorrad here in Israel, and I'm an aerospace engineer student, so I know what I'm doing.

and now I see that I wrote bolts instead of screws

Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Thats likely a 6mm allen head, if your stripping that, you either

Have a shitty made in China tool
Didnt insert it properly (angled or not deep enough)
or are over tightening it

Simple there is no reason you should be stripping a 6mm hex on a triple pinch bolt, if you are you are doing it wrong

Now if we were talking about a button head, then those are usually very shallow and promote stripping....That is a socket cap though, and you sholdnt have problems with those when used properly

+1 for that JohnnyP

[762SPR]

Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Thats likely a 6mm allen head, if your stripping that, you either

Have a shitty made in China tool
Didnt insert it properly (angled or not deep enough)
or are over tightening it

Simple there is no reason you should be stripping a 6mm hex on a triple pinch bolt, if you are you are doing it wrong

Now if we were talking about a button head, then those are usually very shallow and promote stripping....That is a socket cap though, and you sholdnt have problems with those when used properly

Friggen this!

Either stop being an ape, or get a torque wrench...