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[A-MAN]

Originally Posted by J Blox

Explain.

Sorry bsn is way overpriced for what it is and size on is actually pretty good stuff i thougth you were talking about BSN mass protien for a min..

I use to take optinutrion stuff its good stuff for a ok price.

[A-MAN]

Originally Posted by CELFLEX

Start using names of this stuff your referring to...

I just started taking EVOtest. Figured why not what's to loose since I've been stuck for a month.
Been workin out for almost a year been in the gym since December
185-195
6ft
on a guess 12-15% bf

I just want a perfect cycle for me completely done right. Aka pct etc. I wanna get up to 220 and rip back down to anything over 200.

Your diet is on point for the most part if your eating like that and not gaining to much fat.
I would tweak your diet a lil, lower your carbs around 300-400g and bring your protien up to about 300-400g protien is the building block for muscle not carbs. carbs is energy thats it also converts to fat bad fat. bring your fats up to the 100g range good fats like coconut oil, nuts, PB, things like that.

Note 3000 cal over you daily metobolic rate = 1lb of mass either fat or muscle how ever you choose to make it work.

1g fat = 9g cal
1g carbs = 4g cal
1g protien = 4g cal

you want a balance around

100g fat daily X 9 gives you true cal intake
300-400g carbs X 4 gives you true cal intake
300-400g protien X 4 give you true cal intake

X total from all 3 give you total value for the day

If putting on size is what you want to do you need to keep the cardio to low so do two days of HIT training and 4 day LIT trainging with 1 day off from cardio. You want to keep your body out of the catabolic state this state is what keep alot of ppl from gaining weight cause there body is burning muscle and not fat this is were see ppl loose weight and have loose skin is cause they scarafice what muscle they had and burnt fat to. They could have atchived the same goal with out scarficing muscle and loss more fat in the same time if they kept there protien intake high.

Now as for trainging you want to do a broad range of muscle confusion train for 4 weeks then take 5 days off then train for another 4 week but this time change your routine up totaly. Your body is made up of Fast and slow twitching fibers, red and white muscle fibers, so on and so on to target each you have to do supersets, tripple drop sets, heavy ass weight to high rep training to burst trainging. I can get into this in depth.

[A-MAN]

Originally Posted by CELFLEX

D-aspartic acid is what's in Evotest which Im reading is in a good PCT.

yes but its not at a high enough dosage its the min dosage thats why this guy sell it so you can get the true effect of it.

[J Blox]

Originally Posted by A-MAN

Sorry bsn is way overpriced for what it is and size on is actually pretty good stuff i thougth you were talking about BSN mass protien for a min..

I use to take optinutrion stuff its good stuff for a ok price.

I spend the $$ on BSN because it doesn't taste like ASS like 99% of the other proteins do. Its pretty clean as far as calories/carbs/sugars per G of protein. Serious Mass tastes like serious ASS in comparison. But I needed a way to smash in another 1000-1500 calories 50-75g protein a day.

yeah and i was looking at just straight up ZMA supplements.

[KYLE]

Let me know what kind of pricing you have. I have been taking american iso for post workout, cyto gainer as a weight gainer/meal additive, scivation xtend for BCAA's, and n.o.xplode.

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Originally Posted by R1wonder ...And I pick things up and put them Down...

LMAO! this made me about spit up

[A-MAN]

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Originally Posted by KYLE Let me know what kind of pricing you have. I have been taking american iso for post workout, cyto gainer as a weight gainer/meal additive, scivation xtend for BCAA's, and n.o.xplode. LMAO! this made me about spit up

this protein not bad its pretty stright forward of what in it
(Microfiltered Whey Protein Isolate {this is good}, Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Peptides{ its just peptides nothing special, Sweet Whey, Skim Milk)
One note is they dont tell you there protein ratio like rx does.


Rx version of american iso
Whey Blend - WPI/WPC priced at $42.75 with discount


Doesn�t get any more basic than this. A 70/30 mix of our Cold Filtered Whey Isolate (90% protein) and high quality Whey Concentrate (85% protein). This is a good economical source of protein for anyone looking to supplement their protein intake. This mix is a great way for anyone looking to add extra protein into their lifestyle or meals and stay on a budget.

[A-MAN]

Your muscles are like there own brain you train them one way for to long soon they just wont react to it. your muscles need stimulation and confusion in order to maintain maximization of growth, plus none of this will work if you dont keep your diet right and keep protein high. There alot more to size then training, Plus you have to decided what it is your looking for if you wanna big or you wanna have size, Big is 250lb club and up at any height, 20-22inch bi's its all about end goal and there different training regiments to each goal im not saying my routine would work best for someone to maintain or gain but my routine maximizes in lean mass gain and cutting fat.

[A-MAN]

Originally Posted by CELFLEX

Well I abandoned Stuart's program and kept some of his principles. I'll read the book you said. The more info the better

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Thats the best way to do it celflex you take what you learn from one routine or principle and and try another and come up what works best for you every buddy body is different you have to learn what your reacts to.

[R1wonder]

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[A-MAN]

Originally Posted by CELFLEX

Ive been following leangains.com

Not familiar with it but ill check it out.to