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There are a lot of people that are on Welfare or unemployment that have no real issues with the exception of the fact that they are lazy. The system we have enables more and more people to "live" off the system. I would say that a majority of people would suddenly get better and go to work if the free money stopped flowing.
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Now that over 50% of Americans receive government assistance of some type, we will never see this change - without civil war. We're on a downward spiral that only a few care to see. The rest have their heads too far up the governments ass, or in the TV, to care that we're now a socialist majority nation - which goes against everything this (ONCE) great nation was founded for.
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Because its fucked up man.
I work and pay for some meth junkie to stay home and cook oh but he is eating hella better then me, my wife and 2 kids. The world today is SHIT. but damn how screwed up is this person to win bank and have the money 95% of us WISHED we have. Shes totally milking not just the system but people that pay into there takes that a select few are able to just make it. Ive just lost hope in people. Me and my wife saw this last night and I wanted to punch my computer screen.
They make this world almost impossible to have a life or atleast live anymore..
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So what you're saying is that you've never or ever tried to cheat the system in any way, shape or form?. Never ever ever, Right?
Cuz if you have then you're just hating that she won the lottery and still getting off. I only bring home 1/3 of what i make after taxes and union dues. U think that's right? Cuz I don't. The system milks me out my money paying for rediculous taxes. Fed, state, ss, Medicare, sdi. I have medical insurance through my union so why do they(nys) tax me for Medicare?
You mad?
We would pay taxes wether there were ppl on public assistance or not.
As a matter of fact the payouts to unemployment and welfare doesn't even scratch the surface of our economy. U.S is so in debt to other countrys it's not even funny. You fools keep thinking we doing this to ourselves and believing every print u read or news u hear. The system aren't going to blame themselves for the deficit therefore they blame it on the people who are in the rat race.
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The system milks us so why not milk them back? They screw us on every corner they can and then some. Most would do the same but since they can't they bitch and moan about those who can. How many of y'all haven't hopped a train(assuming there are trains around you) or went around a toll on ur bike and not pay? How many of y'all have added a little extra on your returns or added "donations, losses, or gifts" that never took place in order to get back a bit more? How many of ya business owner have paid employees cash(assuming you're a real company and not a fraud of a one man army) and then stuck them with a 1099 at the end of the year ducking taxes on both ends? Or report less income to pay less taxes? C'MON SON! If u done any of the few examples above you've cheated the gov.
So stop the bitching. We've all tried to beat it one way or another so stop acting like straight shooters.
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milking the system back is one thing. milking the system after you've struck it rich winning the lottery... thats trasher status.
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So what you're saying is that you've never or ever tried to cheat the system in any way, shape or form?. Never ever ever, Right?
Cuz if you have then you're just hating that she won the lottery and still getting off. I only bring home 1/3 of what i make after taxes and union dues. U think that's right? Cuz I don't. The system milks me out my money paying for rediculous taxes. Fed, state, ss, Medicare, sdi. I have medical insurance through my union so why do they(nys) tax me for Medicare?
You mad?
We would pay taxes wether there were ppl on public assistance or not.
As a matter of fact the payouts to unemployment and welfare doesn't even scratch the surface of our economy. U.S is so in debt to other countrys it's not even funny. You fools keep thinking we doing this to ourselves and believing every print u read or news u hear. The system aren't going to blame themselves for the deficit therefore they blame it on the people who are in the rat race.
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No I havnt..
I dont care that she won the lottery  people do all the time, it dont bother me. Its a sense or moral direction people make is what bugs me.
And no I R not mad, but sure sounds like you got a bug up your ass..
I know the shit our country is in and all the crooked shit the good ol GOV is willing to do for it, please dont lecture me. I pay my part, and I dont bitch. I prob make half what you make and support my whole family while I dont steal or rip off and or milk the goverment.
I was just saying as a moral standpoint not a rant about tax payers dollars blah blah.. same stories different tones and settings.
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No I havnt..
I dont care that she won the lottery people do all the time, it dont bother me. Its a sense or moral direction people make is what bugs me.
And no I R not mad, but sure sounds like you got a bug up your ass..
I know the shit our country is in and all the crooked shit the good ol GOV is willing to do for it, please dont lecture me. I pay my part, and I dont bitch. I prob make half what you make and support my whole family while I dont steal or rip off and or milk the goverment.
I was just saying as a moral standpoint not a rant about tax payers dollars blah blah.. same stories different tones and settings.
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Lol na man I'm not lecturing you and no bug up my ass 
I was just making a point on how people want to bash those who get over on the system when they themselves try to or do the same. It's human nature to try to get over on people and things.
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It's human nature to try to get over on people and things.
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maybe thats a regional thing!?!
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Lol na man I'm not lecturing you and no bug up my ass
I was just making a point on how people want to bash those who get over on the system when they themselves try to or do the same. It's human nature to try to get over on people and things.
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I get what your saying, "Pot calling the kettle black"
i was just getting the fact of a moral view.. even though that doesnt exsist anymore lol. I loved her expression when she was approached sorta looked like this -->
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So what you're saying is that you've never or ever tried to cheat the system in any way, shape or form?. Never ever ever, Right?
Cuz if you have then you're just hating that she won the lottery and still getting off. I only bring home 1/3 of what i make after taxes and union dues. U think that's right? Cuz I don't. The system milks me out my money paying for rediculous taxes. Fed, state, ss, Medicare, sdi. I have medical insurance through my union so why do they(nys) tax me for Medicare?
You mad?
We would pay taxes wether there were ppl on public assistance or not.
As a matter of fact the payouts to unemployment and welfare doesn't even scratch the surface of our economy. U.S is so in debt to other countrys it's not even funny. You fools keep thinking we doing this to ourselves and believing every print u read or news u hear. The system aren't going to blame themselves for the deficit therefore they blame it on the people who are in the rat race.
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i can't see why a lot of people say things like this i got friends who justify their actions saying well if the system is going to steal from me then i'm going to steal from them, do what you will and i'm not mad but this attitude only makes this sense of entitlement in our country worse. if people would quit acting the govt. owes them something and just bust ass for what they want it would be better not perfect but better. me personally all i want is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness other than that the govt. should get the fck out the way.
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Typical way to win an intellectual argument. Try and make unverifiable insults. Looks like we have a winner here.
Oh and for the record, H2 looks good to me, at least all her FB pics are good and she shoots, that is a plus.
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How did we get on unions? Another way to show you're losing an arguement is the change the subject. And from the looks of it, you have no concept of the corruption of Unions and the connections to the Democratic Party.... Let's change the subject again and talk about classifieds.... oh wait, that happened too. 
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You would know about this. U always pull the "you can't wheelie" card 
And h2 might be hot to you, that doesnt mean she's hot to me. she's just a walking sandwich to me.
Good for u keeping 3 people employed and slaving them for 14 hours prob not even paying them OT. I just got off work myself worked 4 hours and getting payed for 8 at $51 an hour so I ain't complaining
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Phoze' summary:
The big guy is always shittin on the little guy.
Couldve just said that instead of massive wall of text.
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You right
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i can't see why a lot of people say things like this i got friends who justify their actions saying well if the system is going to steal from me then i'm going to steal from them, do what you will and i'm not mad but this attitude only makes this sense of entitlement in our country worse. if people would quit acting the govt. owes them something and just bust ass for what they want it would be better not perfect but better. me personally all i want is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness other than that the govt. should get the fck out the way.
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I don't feel entitled to jack. The gov is who feels entitled to my money getting dibs before I even get my hands on it.
But what does get on my nerve is people bitching about others cheating the system as if they never pulled a fast one.
People who actually read and comprehended what I wrote, know and understood what was said.
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You would know about this. U always pull the "you can't wheelie" card
And h2 might be hot to you, that doesnt mean she's hot to me.
Good for u keeping 3 people employed and slaving them for 14 hours prob not even paying them OT. I just got off work myself worked 4 hours and getting payed for 8 at $51 an hour so I ain't complaining
You right
I don't feel entitled to jack. The gov is who feels entitled to my money getting dibs before I even get my hands on it.
But what dies get on my nerve is people bitching about others cheating the system as if they never pulled a fast one.
People who actually read and comprehended what I wrote, know and understood what was said.
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I worked for him past few days. Super hard ass.
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