girls?

[Tone The Natch]

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Originally Posted by Chesca So posting up pics is ok, but the key is to get better at riding so people have something good to watch - So that's what we do. Both myself AND Leah, as far as I am aware, have given up working full time to dedicate to stunt riding in all aspects of that including the business side. It will take a while for stunt riding to be taken completely seriously, but when it does, it will be a whole different game.

Please don't put yourself in the same category as Leah. That's like putting Rob Durren in the same category as Jorian.

[Chesca]

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Originally Posted by Tone The Natch Please don't put yourself in the same category as Leah. That's like putting Rob Durren in the same category as Jorian.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying..

[old man]

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Originally Posted by Tone The Natch Please don't put yourself in the same category as Leah. That's like putting Rob Durren in the same category as Jorian.

I haven't seen jorian do wheelies with a sword

[Tone The Natch]

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Originally Posted by old man I haven't seen jorian do wheelies with a sword

Someone buy that fucker a katana, stat.

[StuntBikeJake]

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[StrictlyStunt]

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Originally Posted by BC09 DENA ROCKS HANDS DOWN

she kills it!

[StrictlyStunt]

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Originally Posted by Chesca There are girls doing a lot for this sport - Leah being 1 - Always making things accessible to fans etc... And some of these girls are really good riders. It's a start, and I known 2012 will see a lot more of it too. What's all this talk that I 'claim to ride but can't' it's getting a little overused now. The first 2 months I learnt to stunt, we put a little clip together (like everyone is asking for) and I was slated for it..? You all want to see videos and pics etc but it's not exactly easy when the other stunt riders just want to criticize and show disrespect. So posting up pics is ok, but the key is to get better at riding so people have something good to watch - So that's what we do. Both myself AND Leah, as far as I am aware, have given up working full time to dedicate to stunt riding in all aspects of that including the business side. It will take a while for stunt riding to be taken completely seriously, but when it does, it will be a whole different game. There are lots more girls getting into stunting now - We just need to do this together - Hate just detracts from the image of stunt riding.

[Teach]

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Originally Posted by Chesca There are girls doing a lot for this sport - Leah being 1 - Always making things accessible to fans etc... And some of these girls are really good riders. It's a start, and I known 2012 will see a lot more of it too. What's all this talk that I 'claim to ride but can't' it's getting a little overused now. The first 2 months I learnt to stunt, we put a little clip together (like everyone is asking for) and I was slated for it..? You all want to see videos and pics etc but it's not exactly easy when the other stunt riders just want to criticize and show disrespect. So posting up pics is ok, but the key is to get better at riding so people have something good to watch - So that's what we do. Both myself AND Leah, as far as I am aware, have given up working full time to dedicate to stunt riding in all aspects of that including the business side. It will take a while for stunt riding to be taken completely seriously, but when it does, it will be a whole different game. There are lots more girls getting into stunting now - We just need to do this together - Hate just detracts from the image of stunt riding.

good post, i will add however, that part of the hate you receive is because while you DEF have a great presence and sick website (aka, you play the role and clearly, clearly have the business side of things handled), you appear to not have the foundation of actually being a stuntrider down...riding.

i'm not saying that's my opinion, but that is the perception amongst the core of the sport and perception is reality. your perception to sponsors, promoters, etc is that of a professional rider; and while hate may detract from the progression of the sport, etc, so can misrepresentation. and actually, misrepresentation (aka poor representation) does more to damage our sport than anything else, including riding the streets.

i don't know how many times i've talked to companies that are turned off to freestyle bc of an experience they previously had with a 'stunt rider'...one bad experience can leave a taste in that company's mouth for a long time.

if you are truly a stuntrider, you will want to improve and WILL improve to a level that matches your (not saying YOU, speaking generally here) promotion abilities and justifies whatever it is that you are trying to command from sponsors/promoters (shows, $, etc).

without the actual riding, there is no need for anything else, bc without the actual riding, you aren't a stuntrider.

chesca, you said it best: the key is to get better at riding so people have something good to watch - So that's what we do

but you are wrong when you say: It will take a while for stunt riding to be taken completely seriously, but when it does, it will be a whole different game.

because, clearly stuntridig is taken very seriously by many companies. there are companies that are and have invested lots and lots of $ into the mens and womens side of the sport...on the women's side, again, i'll bring up jessica maine who STILL is light years ahead (it seems) of most of today's women in BOTH riding and marketing...THE REASON she was so successful was the fact that she could actually stunt ride a bike (and not just be a chick on a bike doing lame stunts) and she marketed herself well....but all the marketing in the world can't hide the lack of skills.

i watched jessica maine yack up a 3rd gear standup on a claifornia highway on a brand new cbr600rr that she had never ridden...hyavent seen a girl handle a bike as good as that in quite a while.

ramble over.

not directed at you chesca even though i quoted you; and not directed at any particular woman....no hate here and i'm not trying to generalize everyone into the same category...like i said earlier i see opportuinty for women and want to try to do my part hlep motivate and push them to the next level for the betterment of us all

[drew"db"beck]

That video where shes the "bond girl" on her website is pretty sick. I want to repel off a roof top like that

[Chesca]

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Originally Posted by Teach good post, i will add however, that part of the hate you receive is because while you DEF have a great presence and sick website (aka, you play the role and clearly, clearly have the business side of things handled), you appear to not have the foundation of actually being a stuntrider down...riding. i'm not saying that's my opinion, but that is the perception amongst the core of the sport and perception is reality. your perception to sponsors, promoters, etc is that of a professional rider; and while hate may detract from the progression of the sport, etc, so can misrepresentation. and actually, misrepresentation (aka poor representation) does more to damage our sport than anything else, including riding the streets. i don't know how many times i've talked to companies that are turned off to freestyle bc of an experience they previously had with a 'stunt rider'...one bad experience can leave a taste in that company's mouth for a long time. if you are truly a stuntrider, you will want to improve and WILL improve to a level that matches your (not saying YOU, speaking generally here) promotion abilities and justifies whatever it is that you are trying to command from sponsors/promoters (shows, $, etc). without the actual riding, there is no need for anything else, bc without the actual riding, you aren't a stuntrider. chesca, you said it best: the key is to get better at riding so people have something good to watch - So that's what we do but you are wrong when you say: It will take a while for stunt riding to be taken completely seriously, but when it does, it will be a whole different game. because, clearly stuntridig is taken very seriously by many companies. there are companies that are and have invested lots and lots of $ into the mens and womens side of the sport...on the women's side, again, i'll bring up jessica maine who STILL is light years ahead (it seems) of most of today's women in BOTH riding and marketing...THE REASON she was so successful was the fact that she could actually stunt ride a bike (and not just be a chick on a bike doing lame stunts) and she marketed herself well....but all the marketing in the world can't hide the lack of skills. i watched jessica maine yack up a 3rd gear standup on a claifornia highway on a brand new cbr600rr that she had never ridden...hyavent seen a girl handle a bike as good as that in quite a while. ramble over. not directed at you chesca even though i quoted you; and not directed at any particular woman....no hate here and i'm not trying to generalize everyone into the same category...like i said earlier i see opportuinty for women and want to try to do my part hlep motivate and push them to the next level for the betterment of us all

Wow - Forgetting the 'quotes' to myself in this reply, it is a so refreshing to read such a passionate message for the sport!

I understand people may have got the wrong impression of me, and due to personal issues with some riders in the UK, others may have not heard such nice things. However, regardless of that, I push very hard to create a good image for the sport and to make it professional whilst stepping up the mark every time I ride as much as I can. During shows/events, I take a lot of time to explain to people what we do and why etc.. I also ALWAYS push safety i.e. not to do it on the roads and so on.

I understand that the videos that I have up from earlier in the year may not be of a very high skill level, I haven't been riding for very long, but I constantly push to get better and better and raise the bar with my skill. I would hope everyone does really.

I am very pleased though to see your enthusiasm for female riders and the encouragement from male stunt riders is a great thing. Female riders really appreciate that support as do new male riders too. It is what will help the sport in the long run along with the acceptance of professional, high end companies within the industry.

I look forward to the progression of females in this industry and I will do what I can to help too - as I do as much as possible.

I really appreciate your time writing that reply though, even if it wasn't necessarily 'for' me... I understand your POV on the subject.