Tha Carter IV?

[J Blox]

I listen really intently the first time through. I was extremely turned off by the whole tone of the album. I'm going to give it a second shot. there was a few good one liners in tehre, but the composition and vibe of 90% of the songs are whack.

[sDizzle]

lol jayz has always been soft, but i still like his music....anybody have a good torrent link for carter IV so i can dl it lol

[Swanny]

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Originally Posted by sDizzle lol jayz has always been soft, but i still like his music....anybody have a good torrent link for carter IV so i can dl it lol

im pretty sure i got it on my desktop at home shayne but i gotta get the internet hooked up to send ya the torrent

[sDizzle]

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Originally Posted by Swanny im pretty sure i got it on my desktop at home shayne but i gotta get the internet hooked up to send ya the torrent

thanks buddy

[zookiezook]

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Originally Posted by Skillz954 So what makes a real rapper? Someone that's still fresh in the struggle?? So by that standard can any rapper that has made it big continue to be a real rapper?? I clearly think that point of view is foolish......

lupe fiasco is the best in the game and he is pretty well known
he actually talks about real life issues that are going on in the world
shit from aids, to politics, to black peoples ignorance and why they are there own enemy, not glorifying the hood, to achieving dreams , to not sell out, to conflict diamonds ( and for those who dont know lupe came out with his version first then kanye took it ), and to be smart is actual a good thing

or common, or talib kweli or the list goes on of the under appreciated artists
these artists can make is big and stay a real rapper if they stayed trued to music and the art, but most of these artists are making it by not even talking about struggle, thats the problem, they talk about bullshit that there not even a part of

wayne, kanye, rick ross, whoever they all just rap about the same money, drugs, cars, bitches,
it just gets old and annoying hearing that same shit over and over and over


problem is to many people like this shit and think all that stuff is cool and bump the music so then those artists keep getting suport and can make more of the bullshit music
all those guys are fake, none of them have ever killed anyone and will kill anyone, they have to hire protection and body gaurds because they want to pretend there gangster and wear jewelry and just walk around with a pocket full of money
most of these artists cant go back to where they came from because they lie and bullshit and get no real respect

can you honestly turn on the radio and hear a song thats not really talking about all the same shit?

just frustrates me is all

[sDizzle]

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Originally Posted by zookiezook lupe fiasco is the best in the game and he is pretty well known he actually talks about real life issues that are going on in the world shit from aids, to politics, to black peoples ignorance and why they are there own enemy, not glorifying the hood, to achieving dreams , to not sell out, to conflict diamonds ( and for those who dont know lupe came out with his version first then kanye took it ), and to be smart is actual a good thing or common, or talib kweli or the list goes on of the under appreciated artists these artists can make is big and stay a real rapper if they stayed trued to music and the art, but most of these artists are making it by not even talking about struggle, thats the problem, they talk about bullshit that there not even a part of wayne, kanye, rick ross, whoever they all just rap about the same money, drugs, cars, bitches, it just gets old and annoying hearing that same shit over and over and over problem is to many people like this shit and think all that stuff is cool and bump the music so then those artists keep getting suport and can make more of the bullshit music all those guys are fake, none of them have ever killed anyone and will kill anyone, they have to hire protection and body gaurds because they want to pretend there gangster and wear jewelry and just walk around with a pocket full of money most of these artists cant go back to where they came from because they lie and bullshit and get no real respect can you honestly turn on the radio and hear a song thats not really talking about all the same shit? just frustrates me is all

i mostly like how wayne flows, about half of his shit i think is garbage but thats just me...kanye is white if u ask me lol

[Skillz954]

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Originally Posted by zookiezook lupe fiasco is the best in the game and he is pretty well known he actually talks about real life issues that are going on in the world shit from aids, to politics, to black peoples ignorance and why they are there own enemy, not glorifying the hood, to achieving dreams , to not sell out, to conflict diamonds ( and for those who dont know lupe came out with his version first then kanye took it ), and to be smart is actual a good thing or common, or talib kweli or the list goes on of the under appreciated artists these artists can make is big and stay a real rapper if they stayed trued to music and the art, but most of these artists are making it by not even talking about struggle, thats the problem, they talk about bullshit that there not even a part of wayne, kanye, rick ross, whoever they all just rap about the same money, drugs, cars, bitches, it just gets old and annoying hearing that same shit over and over and over problem is to many people like this shit and think all that stuff is cool and bump the music so then those artists keep getting suport and can make more of the bullshit music all those guys are fake, none of them have ever killed anyone and will kill anyone, they have to hire protection and body gaurds because they want to pretend there gangster and wear jewelry and just walk around with a pocket full of money most of these artists cant go back to where they came from because they lie and bullshit and get no real respect can you honestly turn on the radio and hear a song thats not really talking about all the same shit? just frustrates me is all

basically what you're saying is a "real rapper" uses his voice to speak to real world issues.....Like Pac did......but that means you didn't consider Biggie a "real rapper" because while a lot of his early stuff was about his personal struggles, his later stuff was about ballin....

I think it's simply what you're personally interested in.....you personally don't wanna here about ballin/pimpin.....you wanna hear about some real shit......but that doesn't mean other rappers ain't real or that they are not talented......me personally I know the world is a fucked up place.....I don't need to dwell on it in my music.....this is also why I don't watch the news.....too depressing.

[Skillz954]

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Originally Posted by R1wonder i like president carter , blunt blowin, megaman, she will , most of it is junk

+1 I've listened to this for the past few days and I'm at about the same place with this album.....

[crazy dan]

blunt blowin, interlude, president carter my favs! @liltunechi

[nags]

The Outro is good too. But that's another one without Wayne. Fuck.

President Carter is nasty