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what could have caused this? - old man roger - 03-18-2012


Quote Originally Posted by adichino
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i so fuckin regret now i didnt take a picture of that tshirt!

tomorrow i will open the engine to see what went wrong .. pretty excited coz it's my first time

omr, what electric valve are you talkin about ?

The 636 is vacuum operated, the f4i is electric.

I think it's called the air switch valve on a 636, it's the plastic valve on top of your valve cover.


what could have caused this? - old man roger - 03-18-2012

Air injection control valve on an F4I


what could have caused this? - chino12 - 03-18-2012

if what you are talking about is the stock part which most people use to do the clean air mod instead of a T tube, then i cut the wire, its no longer attached to the main harness

anyway, i stripped down the engine today, found out that 2-3 disks from the clutch are broken and rod #3 had broken and had grenaded into the engine case as most you guys assumed

i didnt manage to remove the flywheel and clutch as i dont have a rotor puller and a clutch center holder

is there any way to remove those without the tools or i need to buy the tools?






what could have caused this? - old man roger - 03-18-2012


Quote Originally Posted by adichino
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if what you are talking about is the stock part which most people use to do the clean air mod instead of a T tube, then i cut the wire, its no longer attached to the main harness

Thats exatly the part I was talking about but I was actually replying to stunna dales question, I think your problem was probably caused by the guy that left the t-shirt in there.

you didn't see any large amounts of oil in any of the cylinders right?


what could have caused this? - chino12 - 03-19-2012


Quote Originally Posted by old man roger
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Thats exatly the part I was talking about but I was actually replying to stunna dales question, I think your problem was probably caused by the guy that left the t-shirt in there.

you didn't see any large amounts of oil in any of the cylinders right?

the cylinders were clean

its funny coz i bought this bike in 2009, somewhere in august and i opened the engine last month and saw the tshirt ... the engine has run perfectly during all this time

what a rod cannot break if you revlimit that shit 4-5 minutes?

whats your input on those two tools to remove the flywheel and clutch ?


what could have caused this? - PeRkz - 03-21-2012

See knock on wood, ran fine til you took out the magic shirt. Ya fucked yourself man


what could have caused this? - chino12 - 03-24-2012


Quote Originally Posted by PeRkz
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See knock on wood, ran fine til you took out the magic shirt. Ya fucked yourself man

true that hahah

i managed today to remove the clutch with an air pistol and the flywheel with a ghetto puller and a torch, split the cases and took it to the welder .. tomorrow i will see his magic cant wait


what could have caused this? - old man roger - 03-24-2012

You're gonna fix that motor? You could probably buy a used one cheaper


what could have caused this? - chino12 - 03-24-2012


Quote Originally Posted by old man roger
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You're gonna fix that motor? You could probably buy a used one cheaper

yea i will try if not i will buy another f4i

the germans are crazy when it comes to engine prices ... one f4/f4i is at least 600 eur

i paid like 100 eur for the rods, crankshaft and the engine case, the case is not good but probably i will turn it into a small coffee table
the welding is 100 eur tops, so im good with 200 eur, if everything goes fine of course


what could have caused this? - chino12 - 03-24-2012

so today i got the case from the welder, i hope it will hold
so then i went to the garage, cleaned the case and put in the pistons rods and shaft

and assumed that top dead center is when piston 1 and 4 are at the top of the cylinder - that was to me the only way for the rods to be straight
i tighten the the rods to 25nm as written in book

i then tried to rotate the shaft but i couldnt

could this be because of the new set of rods&pistons which might not be aligned to the cylinder?
or i did some stupid shit ...