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Christians Here - Outlaw Society - 01-19-2010

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i second that! my whole belief is that no man can judge me and how dare one try. for somone to sit and preach and tell me how i do wrong and how i should give money to be with god is fundementaly wrong in my mind and if i do wrong i'm goin to hell they are scaring people into a belief....i got some serious problems with that. Not to mention a god that i would believe in is accepting and peacefull loving and kind.....a teacher and leader, not vengeful.

Call me a heathen, but I don't take my orders from the higher power from any man....... I get 'em straight from the big cheese him/her self. To take spiritual advice on reaching peace from a fundamentally flawed creation such as man is an exercise in futility. We can learn from each other, but no one has a step by step manual for any other person. It's like stunting...... you take a lil from this guy that you learned, a lil from that guy, and mix it together to make it your own stank sauce!

My older brother once said "I find more peace with God sitting out in the ocean on my board in the morning waiting for that first break to come in, than I ever will at any church." I can fuck with that......... for real.


Christians Here - PETe P - 01-19-2010

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Call me a heathen, but I don't take my orders from the higher power from any man....... I get 'em straight from the big cheese him/her self. To take spiritual advice on reaching peace from a fundamentally flawed creation such as man is an exercise in futility. We can learn from each other, but no one has a step by step manual for any other person. It's like stunting...... you take a lil from this guy that you learned, a lil from that guy, and mix it together to make it your own stank sauce!

My older brother once said "I find more peace with God sitting out in the ocean on my board in the morning waiting for that first break to come in, than I ever will at any church." I can fuck with that......... for real.

you my man have it down! and i agree with the being in nature and finding the peace. i've found that alot more people our age have come to these conclusions and feel the same way about formal religions. the problem with religion also is that it is translated by man and is brought down the mountain by man. So it can be twisted and changed and formed into whatever that man can think of. how many times has a bible been translated and rewriten? how many times do you think a man took certain liberties in the translations of those books? just sayin.


Christians Here - Juca - 01-19-2010

seems like this thread is alive


Christians Here - Outlaw Society - 01-19-2010

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you my man have it down! and i agree with the being in nature and finding the peace. i've found that alot more people our age have come to these conclusions and feel the same way about formal religions. the problem with religion also is that it is translated by man and is brought down the mountain by man. So it can be twisted and changed and formed into whatever that man can think of. how many times has a bible been translated and rewriten? how many times do you think a man took certain liberties in the translations of those books? just sayin.

It was once said "History is just the WINNERS account of what happened".............

alas, sometimes the same can be true of formal religion. To me it's like any weapon, it can be used for survival, and the greater good, but it can also be manipulated.


Christians Here - PETe P - 01-19-2010

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seems like this thread is alive

a religion topic will always be talked about. but the problem with it is no one is wrong or right but people believe in it so strongly one way or another, and peoples feelings will get hurt. for example if somone feels very strongly about catholisism they will take great offence to what i said and the gent before me. and will try to take it to a level but again no one is wrong or right it is a belief and i guess some day we'll find out if we were wrong or right.


Christians Here - Outlaw Society - 01-19-2010

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that's what the bible is all about

The old testament is........ yes. But that's my point...... even the Bible is a walking contradiction IF you take it LITERALLY. The two most famous quotes from the bible (aside from funeral psalms) are:

1. An eye for an eye.........

2. Turn the other cheek........

We have to learn to read b/w the lines and think for ourselves...... following blindly literal religion leads to radical factions.


Christians Here - Juca - 01-19-2010

damn man i think that i am drunk,looking on my screen name and it looks so bold


Christians Here - Outlaw Society - 01-19-2010

You're a bold man Juca....... it's your new super moderator powers. lol


Christians Here - PETe P - 01-19-2010

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how old?

dude u mention girl or sexual orientation and it's like a god damn dog goin after a bone! she's 24


Christians Here - Juca - 01-19-2010

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You're a bold man Juca....... it's your new super moderator powers. lol

i am moderator