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Tandem Drama.... - BLEED - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n sickkk riding together...FTW and do what you do\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - ryda - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n Bill D is an Icon and m sure will be a legend (no homo but the truth) lol\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - Brit-a-tit-tit - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n Disclaimer: I love Bill and Destiny to death, I think they do some amazing things on and off the bike. I think they are great people, and they have proven to me that they are good friends... helped me out when my bike was down and gave me a place to sleep for a few nights last October. Not to mention lots of good memories and laughs. Bill and Dee, you know where I stand. Please take this post as constructive rather than negative. If you can\'t see my side and think I am a total idiot for what I have to say, TELL ME... I hate that you ignored me after SW because I told you the TRUTH as your FRIEND. If you wanna use this as a reason to disown me, I understand, and I wish you the best of luck for the rest of your careers. Your Dad still has my bike, so obviously, I hold you in high regard as a person, and don\'t think that MY baby is in jeopardy by replying to your post on this forum. With that said, I will explain to you why I said the judging at SW is garbage and that I didn\'t think you and Dee rode any better than Brit and Adam or Ken and Brandy.
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\r\n*I can\'t believe Thomas didn\'t check his facts before he posted up about the "sickest stoppies in the game" scenario.
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\r\nFirst of all, Ken has placed 4th in longest stoppie at Stuntwars for 2 years running. Most recently, his run was only 80 ft BEHIND Bill\'s (385 ft). Not saying that Bill doesn\'t have amazing stoppies, but Ken\'s aren\'t anywhere close to being only 100 ft and below balance point. So from that info alone, Ken should be able to compete against Bill fair and square according to Thomas.
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\r\nSecondly, Bill, you guys are "undisputed" for 2 years because you didn\'t even compete as a team in June of 2007 and January of 2008. Destiny was too hurt from crashing during PRACTICING TANDEM for you to ride last January. Funny how Ray Ray still somehow announced that you and Destiny were the 2008 Stuntwars tandem champions and NO ONE even bothered to correct him. When I said something about it to Ray Ray, he didn\'t even respond! No biggie.... but when credit is deserved, you would be upset too if they didn\'t give it to YOU.
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\r\nThird, Bill, you were the FIRST person to start complaining about politics and bitching about judging when you found out that they (Stuntwars) had given the win to ZOLTAN..... you threw a small fit in front of all the riders! How is that different than someone calling the politics behind tandem "garbage" in a very public manner so that EVERYONE knew how she felt? The SAME JUDGES AND POLITICS that gave Zoltan the win, and you think I am wrong for saying that they do the same thing during tandem?
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\r\nWhy did Joel and Kelly get to use a prop when they clearly stated NO PROPS in the rider meeting? Why do you get to hit rev limiter several times during your run while your rear tire is on the ground and not get disqualified? Why are there no SCORES posted on the SW website for the tandem results? BECAUSE ITS ALL BULL!
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\r\nNo, I don\'t think you and Destiny rode better than Adam and Brittany OR Ken and Brandy last Sunday. Regardless of whether you have the "most difficult" tricks, you still have to EXECUTE them correctly or you should NOT get full points for them! Unfortunately, the main reason I was dissappointed with your run is because it was the SAME run I watched you do in October and win. Do you forget that I was the one who applauded the idea to park the rear tire on the wall with Dee on the back? That was great! But you missed the wall in your run last week, and you also missed your killer 270 stoppie that you usually do with her on the back as well. Your switchback stoppie came off the ground for a split second and it was nothing close to what you do on your own. I am sure you would have nailed the whole run if you both had PRACTICED TOGETHER.
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\r\nPart of being a professional at the top of his game includes continuing to practice and step it up... you have done the same run with Destiny for a year! Switch it up! And saying that you don\'t feel the need to practice shows us that maybe you really are confused about what it takes to win a FAIR FIGHT. I am a firm believer in the saying, "No one truly deserves anything they aren\'t willing to work for." So I am glad you guys are going to practice instead of just doing the same old routine, we want and expect more from you (at least I do)!
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\r\nPlease tell me why combo circles with BOTH riders transitioning on the bike is less difficult than doing standup circles while your partner does that "silly flamingo" you were bashing earlier? Did you even watch Ken and Brandy or Adam and Brittany\'s run? Ken does foot-in-bar circles while Brandy transitions from frogger to tank spreader to seat stander while HE transitions to Ralph Louie. THAT\'S SICK!
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\r\nYes, Ken and Brandy\'s bike hit the ground. During a transition. They still hit all their tricks nearly flawlessly. That means they should have only lost 5 points total for their drop. Brandy did her own burnout. Yes, Dee does a wheelie, but you still control the rear brake. Brandy also does her own zeros with and without Ken as a passenger. And it\'s only going to get better. I can\'t wait to see what D can do on her own, I have been excited about it for a whole year, ever since she has been talking about practicing on her own.
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\r\nI seriously believe you need to take a long look in the mirror and re-evaluate WHY you ride tandem. Destiny is always saying "we need the money" and it is making us think you don\'t care about actually perpetuating the sport and pushing stunt riding in a positive direction. Yamaha wants to see a rider who does whatever it takes to win and KEEP winning. Just because you worked your ass off to get where you are doesn\'t mean you get to stop and take a break and no one else will catch up to you. You have to KEEP paying your practice dues!
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\r\nIf you think you can do some amazing things on a bike and then coast for the rest of your life on "Hey I did that first," well, then I would have to start calling you Gixxie Jr. And no one wants to be seen like that (think about it for a second and you will realize that I am right). So please, keep working, keep up the amazing tricks and great riding and doing things first in this sport. And you will deserve everything you work for. That\'s all we really wanna see!!!!
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\r\nMuch Love.\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - thomas - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n once again.. The stoppie statement was hypothetical... But more importantly, distance is only about 40% of having the sickest stoppies in the game
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\nJoe Dryden is currently the only person who has proven he can drive 270 stoppies with bill
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\nA few guys have proven they can go distance with bill... No one has been proven to be able to do both\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - StrictlyStunt - 08-13-2026
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Tandem Drama.... - TRICKY - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n I love tandem, always loved it and have the full respect for everybody doing it, I was pretty pissed that I missed half the runs at SW because of getting up too late.
\nYou guys should go on with what you do, always enjoyed your runs, no matter what others say.
\nAnd I hope there will be more teams coming up in the future, tandem has to grow in my eyes.\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - Brit-a-tit-tit - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n JESSE TOLER
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\r\nan OG for shiz! distance and 270s and parking it anywhere..... through water and over curbs. Seen it all from that guy. Just won SW longest stoppie. He\'s a gangsta.\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - Mikey SBF - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n So much to say, but Thomas has banned me from talking about tandem online\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - ~Mandy~ - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n Just a few things...
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\nBill and Destiny kill it!
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\nFuck haters, I hate HATE!
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\nRayRay sucks at announcing period!\r\n
Tandem Drama.... - thomas - 08-13-2026
\r\n \r\n jesse toler definately gets a lot of credit.. once again.. thats only reinforcing my point
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\nwhats wrong with RAY RAY?\r\n